We got a new Tesla!

"marshknute" (marshknute)
08/12/2019 at 10:30 • Filed to: None

Goodbye Sequoia, hello e-tron! The range seems to be just shy of 250mi per charge, significantly higher than Audi’s advertised 200. All the Audi insiders we’ve talked to have admitted that Audi deliberately underreports the range so they can’t possibly have another Dieselgate scandal (and E-Golf owners similarly report better than advertised range).

Interestingly, Audi only lets the car charge to 80%, which apparently prevents battery degradation. So no need to drain it down before recharging like a cellphone.

Now to see if Connecticut is smart enough to realize that it’s an electric car and thus doesn’t require an annual emissions test.

DISCUSSION (40)

jimz > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:36

yep. charging LiIon cells to 100% repeatedly will eventually cause lithium plating, leading to a gradual loss in capacity. hybrids do this as well; won’t charge past 80% nor discharge past 25%.

Deal Killer - Powered by Focus > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:37

I’d be interested to know what the range will be in mid February, when temps are well below freezing.

Nibby > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:38

Kinja'd!!!

SMASHING! congrats!

412GTI > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:41

Woo all the benefits of an electric car with none of the Tesla douchebaggery! Enjoy it!

marshknute > Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
08/12/2019 at 10:42

Same. Will be interesting to see which uses more energy: AC or heater?

Future next gen S2000 owner > Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
08/12/2019 at 10:43

I would hope that EPA stated range would consider in a portion of driving in temps below freezing. Similar to city and highway but hot and cold.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:43

Wait. They’re on sale already?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > jimz
08/12/2019 at 10:46

Interesting. Won’t discharge past 25%? So, theoretically , could a car’s battery have a quarter charge left but it will show as “empty” and potentially leave a driver stranded?

marshknute > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
08/12/2019 at 10:48

It actually arrived at the port in Boston back in June, but it was confiscated because of that whole fiery death battery recall. We got our “your car is ready” email 2 weeks ago.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:49

Cool. Interested to see an Oppo review

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > Future next gen S2000 owner
08/12/2019 at 10:51

hahaha. No. The EPA rating basically assumes STP (standard temperature and pressure, 20°C ( 68°F) and one atmosphere) . Elevation and temperature can both cause deviation from the ratings.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:53

At first, when I saw the pic I thought it was an electric Kona, they look so much alike... I guess the eTron is a bit larger, though less range and more expensive... oh, yeah and no AWD available on the Kona electric.

Deal Killer - Powered by Focus > Future next gen S2000 owner
08/12/2019 at 10:54

Kinja'd!!!

You’re hilarious.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > 412GTI
08/12/2019 at 10:57

I read an article about the new e-tron gt and they said someone pulled up Next to them in a Tesla just to tell them their Tesla was better. Because of course

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 10:58

Jealous! I’m waiting for the day they make an A4/A5 sized ETGT (I believe one is in the pipeline)

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 11:03

For fun, y ou should go into an Audi dealer and ask to test drive “ one of those new Tesla E-Trons Audi started making”

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 11:13

Heater

jimz > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2019 at 11:22

I meant hybrids specifically. they just kick on the ICE once the traction battery state of charge gets that low. I’m not sure how BEVs handle it. I know you can safely discharge LiIon cells lower than 25%, but you never ever want to run them flat.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > jimz
08/12/2019 at 11:29

Ah, gotcha. Makes perfect sense.

412GTI > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy
08/12/2019 at 11:32

No surprise there. I’m genuinely looking forward to more big OEM EVs to come out so Tesla fans can shut the hell up (not that they will lol).

TheWay > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 11:34

The Heater will easily take up more range than the AC. That said, I would be sure to test with preheating the car. One of the tricks not talked about much when using an EV in cold weather is preheating the car while its on the grid.

Changing temperature is more energy intensive than maintaining temperature.

TheWay > Future next gen S2000 owner
08/12/2019 at 11:39

The EPA does do some testing to include winter. The problem is said testing is done at 56mph top speed and 21 mph average speed.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml#detailed-comparison

The other thing to note about EPA testing is that it gets averaged in with the other 4 tests.

TheWay > jimz
08/12/2019 at 11:42

Charging to 100% is not the problem, maintaining 100% for a long time is the problem.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > jimz
08/12/2019 at 11:42

Tesla is learning this the hard way. They did an “over the air” update that reduced most older models battery capacity to 80% so they won’t have to replace battery packs and owners are hella pissed.

TheWay > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2019 at 11:45

Well yes. The 0% and 100% you see is not the real numbers. They are virtual numbers. So when you see 100% on an EV, it is usually 80%-93% in reality . The same applies to 0%.

Of course to extend battery life, many manufacturers offer a standard mode and range mode. Which sets you to 80%-90% (or some let you choose) in virtual % to help expand battery lifespan further.

TheWay > 412GTI
08/12/2019 at 11:47

So you get Audi douchebaggery instead? Lets not pretend acting like douchebags is somehow limited to 1 brand.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 11:50

Also if you can garage do that.

412GTI > TheWay
08/12/2019 at 11:51

Never intended it to be one brand, however with EVs it generally is. Audi might have some, but I’d guess nowhere near the level of Tesla douchebaggery and fanboi-ism

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > TheWay
08/12/2019 at 11:51

Not that dissimilar from your car showing you’re on empty when you still have a gallon or two left, but a gasoline cat will let you keep going on “fumes” and run it dry. Will an EV cut your off at some point, even if you actually have some range left, in the interest of saving your battery?

In 99% percent of cases, that’s perfectly fine, but what about those 1% of cases where no being able to go 5 more miles becomes a life-threatening situation?

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > 412GTI
08/12/2019 at 11:55

My brother just ordered a model 3, I’m interested to see it. I don’t foresee him being a typical Tesla owner as we kids (except he’s 37 now) are all pretty come from not a lot, humble people. If he is I plan to call him out, lol. I’ll wait until the a4 sized e tron GT comes, I love the s5 sportback and I’d imagine it will be similar to that the way the etron gt looks, just a bit smaller.

TheWay > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/12/2019 at 11:59

It depends on the car, some EVs let you drive a few miles past 0%. I know Tesla has said theirs have 5 - 15 miles left after 0. Though you shouldn’t really risk it (not because its bad for the battery, but simply because being towed isn’t fun )

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > TheWay
08/12/2019 at 12:00

Oh, for sure. I’m just thinking blizzard conditions, or desert with no cell signal...

412GTI > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy
08/12/2019 at 12:05

I do think there are a fair amount of Tesla owners that are just normal people who don’t think their vehicle was built by God, however the super fans are heard loudest. We had one on our detailing page last night that started an FAQ (no problem there, good to learn from owners) but then got upset when people say they like ICE motor noise, manuals, etc. Gets annoying.

Agree on the E-Tron GT, hopefully will be like a more budget friendly Taycan.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 13:13

Nice, I’ve seen a couple of these out in our area - look really sharp in person, congrats!

His Stigness > marshknute
08/12/2019 at 17:01

I’M SO JEALOUS!

I went and played with on for an hour while I charged my e-Golf on the dealer’s fast charger. If I made stupid amounts of money I’d get one in a second, I don’t care that it’s an SUV. Especially since it doesn’t feel like an SUV. Driving it feels a lot like my Golf except I’m a tad bit higher.

And the new infotainment and center stack is PHENOMENAL! I love everything about that car.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
08/13/2019 at 07:02

a couple folks drove a volt till the battery was “0%” and then till gas was e mpty , then the battery kicked in again for another 10 miles,

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
08/13/2019 at 07:04

ONe small advantage is EVs don’t take an elevation decline

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
08/13/2019 at 08:51

Nice. The heroes we need...

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
08/13/2019 at 10:25

true.

Yowen - not necessarily not spaghetti and meatballs > TheWay
10/04/2019 at 15:59

oooh top tip alert!